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Renato Franco
The former MTV presenter, now at «Kilimangiaro», goes on stage with the show-event «Lovelive»: «My career? A bluff. I was molested at 8 years old. My daughters have to get two degrees”
We republish Renato Franco’s interview with Camila Raznovich, published in October, one of the most appreciated by our readers in 2025
And Loveline a Lovelivefrom TV to theatre. More than 20 years after that program that marked a decade, Camila Raznovich goes on stage (Saturday 25 October at the Lirico in Milan) with a show-event where he talks about sex again. At his side on stage Maurizio Bini, an authority in gynecology and sexology. Camila speaks in bursts: for her the shortest line between two points is the arabesque; he opens round, square and curly brackets, but then closes them all and returns to the point with a certain taste for irony: «We uterines travel on multiple levels of thought at the same time which create mess, but in the mess we then find order».
What are the three most deeply rooted taboos in sex?
«The first is female masturbation. When the mother of a boy finds the door closed she is very proud. The female who masturbates oscillates between the mentally ill, the freak and the maniac.”
The second?
«Male homosexuality: penetration is not easily accepted. Female homosexuality, on the other hand, is dismissed with one sentence: it’s a phase, she loves her friend so much.”
The third?
«Oral sex and masturbation practiced on another. In general there is a punitive attitude to orgasm, it refuses to talk about the sexual organs as an object of pleasure. The idea of making love, in this strongly Catholic culture, is justified by the act of procreation. At 16 you should have other conversations: make love to enjoy yourself.”
Sexuality education in families?
«The tenor is depressing: “I put a box of condoms in the boys’ suitcase” is the height of wow».
The result?
«The absence of sentimental education has led to an increase in feminicides in our country and a decrease in the age at which they are committed. Furthermore, a new phenomenon brought by social media is added: revenge porn. I don’t want to give lessons, but it scares me.”
Was it once better?
“I was molested at eight years old, outside of school there was always the maniac who showed it to us, on the tram those who rubbed each other: perhaps the attitude and protection of the parents has changed.”
Sex and feelings: have you had more luck or more horns in your life?
«I live in the illusion of never having been betrayed and if I have been it’s fine not to know, that is, I’m not the one who goes to investigate. My problem is that I’m very romantic, the adrenaline bar must remain very high.”
Is he demanding of his partner?
«Even after eight years of relationship I expect you to still be madly in love with me: an inclination that I believe is part of my boundless egocentrism. In my head only me exists, so you have to tell me you love me, you have to bring me flowers, you have to give me gifts. But I’m going to therapy, I swear.”
She is married, but her husband lives in Paris.
“So the desire always remains high and it seems like living in a relationship between lovers: when you don’t see each other every day it’s almost always beautiful.”
How often do you meet?
«Basically we spend every other week together, it’s a lively relationship the way I like it. One of the things I hate most is boredom, routine scares me like hell. I couldn’t live with a man and his little quirks. And then the pillow.”
The pillow?
“In the morning I can’t bear to see the pillow with the shape of his head.”
This is a serious pathology.
«I immediately declared that I am going to therapy. I can’t hold a pillow that’s always shaped like the same head.”
She was born by chance in Italy to parents from Buenos Aires, a mother of Italian origins and a father of Russian-Jewish origins. Primary school in Milan, London and India, because his parents were followers of Osho. Adolescence spent among the hippies of the Pune ashram and the severe Beccaria high school in Milan. A tumult of contradictions.
«Hippie and bourgeois. “No rules” child and then Nazi mother.”
Is she strict with her daughters?
«I’m the strictest mother in the whole neighborhood. For me there is no such thing as pocket money. I don’t reward you because you get promoted, it’s the least you should do.”
What if your friends have scooters?
«To my daughters I say: are you annoyed? I work and earn to support you, your job is study.”
She grew up without rules until she was 10 years old. What bothered you about that nomadic life?
«I understood it later. At the moment everything was just beautiful. The parents didn’t bother us, we didn’t have any stakes, it looked like a playground. When you grow up you understand that there was a dose of irresponsibility and immaturity on the part of adults who put the lives of many children at risk. More than an annoyance, it was a total refusal.”
When did you understand it?
«When I became a mother. I thought: what the hell were my parents thinking? You could smoke, you could stay up until three in the morning, total anarchy entrusted to the child’s self-management.”
He also wrote a book about his life.
«It’s the only book that I really felt the urge to write to deal with the past: Osho, my father and my mother, those slightly therapeutic things that we self-centered people think that others give a damn about».
How self-centered is she on a scale of 1 to 10?
«A good 12. I always expect to be the center of attention, it has also become a challenge, in any context. But I have great awareness of this mental perversion.”
Another contradiction: he does meditation, but also television («Kilimangiaro» on Rai3), two opposite activities.
«And yet it’s not true: there is nothing like live television or meditation in the Himalayas that brings you to the here and now, to stay in the present moment. But I’m not a good meditator and I do much better on TV than post-yoga when I start thinking about what to get at the supermarket.”
It all started with an audition on MTV.
«I always say this to my daughters too: my career at MTV began with a bluff, I was 19 years old and it’s been a bluff that has lasted for 30».
Why is it a bluff?
«Because anyone who does my job is a bit of an acrobat: what job is ours?».
Is there a dose of quackery?
«Totally. It went very well for all of us. In Rome they say: “But maybe they’ll fall for it.” Well, they fell for it. I don’t have a degree, I went a bit crazy and I must never forget this. I expect my daughters to get at least two degrees and have real jobs.”
Poor girls… What’s up with your nerve?
“I’ve always had a face like an ass, I’ve always been the type who thinks: look at me.”
The 90s, MTV, the new VJs: has it ever gone to your head?
«At first, yes. I earned a lot, 90 thousand pounds a year in 1995. A bang. We had the driver. It’s difficult to keep your feet on the ground.”
The gift she gave herself?
“This. A Rolex paid for three thousand pounds. And then the house in London. My heart was beating because of the clock, I was excited, I was also a little ashamed. I had never had an object of my own not even at the time of the paninari when I dreamed of the Naj Oleari bag and the Timberlands but imagine my mother. I was desperately trying to enter the Milanese bourgeoisie after ten years as a hippie: I suffered from not belonging to a pack, from not fitting in, even if it was my great wealth.”
She was “different” from the others: were they targeting her?
«They didn’t dare. I did badly, I was still the leader, I always had to be the best of the pack to survive.”
What if the bluff didn’t work?
«I’ve always had two or three escape plans. One was the interior decorator. Plan C is still open: the yoga teacher in Costa Rica.”
December 29, 2025 (changed December 29, 2025 | 07:51)
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