The presenter: «With the Berlusconi family there has always been esteem. My faith helps me ». The accusation of TV Trash? “Did I tell simple stories of ordinary people, what is the border with popular TV?”
Barbara D’Urso, how is it?
“A little dazed”.
On the National Carmelita which until two years ago nailed 5 million viewers on channel, in recent weeks everything has been written: which would return to Rai thanks to Matteo Salvini; who would not return to Rai because Fratelli d’Italia and Forza Italia did not want to make a “escort” to Mediaset; That in Cologno Monzese there was a veto with very high floors. On Friday in Naples, at the presentation of the Rai schedules, the director of the Prime Time Williams entertainment of Liberator, to the question of the negotiations for a program with her, replied: «There are projects that may concern various talent, from Barbara D’Urso To others, but it is premature to talk about it ». Yet Davide Maggio had written about a program at the start from January, 8 episodes on Friday, style Carràmba! What a surprise.
She never replied. And it was not easy to convince her even now, after phone calls, emails, messages, doubts, rethinking. Maybe we took it for exhaustion.
Meanwhile, who is his agent today?
“I’m my agent and press office!” He laughs.
Let’s start with the Rai program. Have there been contacts between her and liberator?
“Certain. I met him with the CEO of Freemantle Italia. He told me that he had great esteem for me and my professional path, especially in terms of results: not only for the share, but also for advertising collection ».
Which program have you talked about?
“It is not Load! And they are not eight episodes. It is a beautiful, elegant, popular, moving and fun and fun “Emotainment” project ».
Tailored to her …
«… and of the prime time of Rai Uno. The director liked it very much. The idea is to make 4 or 5 episodes, on Friday evening. Among other things, I saw that in January the beautiful Clerici program will move from Friday to Saturday. Everything square ».
How did it go?
“In a TV company it is normal for the new director to meet talents who can score a goal.”
But is it possible that for two years now it has disappeared from TV?
«I did not disappear out of my choice. But, on the other hand, I chose in these two years of being calm, in a corner, not to speak, never replicate the thousand things I have read. And wait. Patience is the virtue of the strong, and I am a strong woman ».
What did you hurt more?
«It is from 16.30 on June 26, 2023, when I had the news for routes that I would no longer be part of the broadcast that I had created in 2008, that I read anything about me. Also very unpleasant things. But I’m lucky. The audience that I have cultivated in these 50 years of career supports me in an incredible way, stops me on the street, asks me why I don’t come back, tells me that it is an injustice. Paradoxically, my not being there was stronger than my presence ».
But he didn’t tell me what he wounded more. Has Matteo Salvini really spent himself for her?
“The foresight of Silvio Berlusconi, the intellectual freedom that distinguished him, have allowed me to interview all the politicians of the entire parliamentary arch. Everyone. And I guarantee them that they were very happy to come to me, because mine were conversations that entered the house of ordinary people, perhaps the one who had not yet decided who to vote. And the fact that I did not speak in politician, made these meetings very effective ».
Well, with Salvini she recited the eternal rest on live TV.
“Still that? But do you remember when it happened? While the army trucks paraded by Bergamo to transport the coffins of the victims of Covid. And then I honestly claim that I had supported the request for those in front of me and I prayed with him, but I would have done it with anyone else, center or left, even with her, because we were all overwhelmed by pain ».
We said about politicians who interviewed.
«My work allowed me to make contacts and, why not?, Even friendships, regardless of their political role. See Zingaretti, another who has never hidden his esteem for me. But never, and I ever underline, nobody intercepted in my professional sphere. Also because I didn’t need it: they spoke to me my job, my results, my enthusiasm, the sense of responsibility. I never missed one day, not even with the fever at 41 and with my back stuck, I made myself an injection of Voltaren and I went the same. I lived in the dressing room ».
In Teresa Ciabatti on 7 a month ago he told the shock of the truck full of his things that was delivered to her at home.
«In my apartment I had no longer even the linen. At one point on Canale 5 I conducted 4 programs at the same time: Afternoon 5, Sunday Live, It is not D’Urso e GF. Every morning I made the meeting in Cologno with 15 journalists ».
Is there really a veto of Forza Italia and brothers of Italy in Rai so as not to disconnect the very high plans mediaset?
«I cannot think that the largest public cultural company in the country, of which we all pay the fee, can accept vetoes. It would be horrible ».
Some newspapers write about a veto of Marina Berlusconi. Does it seem possible to you?
«I don’t believe it, it would be absurd. I have always had a relationship of esteem and affection with the whole Berlusconi family, to which I will always and in any case be grateful. I knew Pier Silvio that he was a child, because I started working in Mediaset when called Telemilano 58, in 1977, and I was 20 years old. There was still Biscione. “
Did you hear it more after the expansion?
«No».
Silvio Berlusconi?
«It has always been an honest person, very respectful. It was a genius of television. He understood that he had to create a completely different TV from the public one. He estimated me a lot. When he reworked, in 2013, he was interviewed with me ».
This does not surprise me: TV was his.
«Look, I interviewed everyone, I have already said: from Pannella A Di Battista, from Conte to Meloni. Or Renzi, when he was premier ».
The courier told that the world had come down that time, because she was not a journalist. For Baudo, nobody had objected.
“Exactly. There has always been a sort of snobbery towards me. I have never competed with the political talk of the great journalists such as Floris, Vespa or Mentana, I have too much respect. I worked with their heads down, attentive to the hearts of the people who looked at me ».
Last year at the Dogliani TV Festival Lucio Presta told me he was working on a program for her, but the times were not yet ripe to talk about it. Don’t you follow her anymore?
“Lucio tried to support me for a few months, but then we surrendered that it was not possible that I worked … and we said goodbye with great mutual esteem”.
Are stress and sorrows reflect on health?
«I don’t deny that a truck has passed. But I don’t like the role of the victim, also because frankly in the world things happen so terrible that I am only a grain of dust. I am lucky because I have many friends, a family that I love and loves me. As for the truck, if you fall, you start on the elbows, then on the knees, get up and go ahead, because life must be lived like this ».
Faith helps you?
«I have a particular faith. When I was born they called me Maria Carmela, in devotion to the Madonna del Carmine, the patron of my father’s country, Laurenzana. And the Madonnina del Carmine is always with me ».
They accused him of doing trash television.
“But what does it mean? Trying to give voice to the feelings of ordinary people is trash? I told simple stories, because the Italians were recognized. What is the border between trash and popular? Was the corridor of Corrado trash? ».
He brought human ken to TV.
«In the best tradition of Italian popular entertainment. Isn’t the circus art? ».
And didn’t he do pain in the pain?
«Emotions are an accessory and fundamental element in television communication, they are the living matter through which you tell reality. Not everyone can afford to tell their wounds with a high language. In my programs there was talk of separations, diseases, violence against women, poverty, exclusion, and I did it by giving space to those who otherwise would have remained invisible. And in any case it seems to me that all the programs that deal with the news, and beyond do it rightly ».
Who has been close to her?
«Only Gerry Scotti was publicly exposed, he said that I was missing as a viewer. And it was very nice Simona Ventura, with Giovanni Terzi: in private yesterday he called me saying that what I was experiencing is absolutely unfair. The others? Well … »
